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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: The Da Vinci Code Reply with quote

Went to see this much talked about film over the weekend, & I was pleasantly surprised. Having read & enjoyed the book I was a bit worried about seeing the film after it got such a panning by the critics. I need not have worried, for not the first time the"intelectual elite" who call themselves film critics got it totally wrong! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

The film sticks very closely to the book, so if you like the book, you'll like the film. It was critised for being too long, but at times I thought it was not long enough, as various parts seemed rushed - my only critisism.
Tom Hanks has been panned for a "lackluster" performance, but he played the part of Robert Langdon as it was written!! The character is not an action hero - not your typical hollywood steroetype, but a Harvard professor, bookish, intellegent, but not someone who gets into a fight everyday. When Hanks acts "lackluster" he is acting how the character portrayed would act.

This is typical of a lot of the critisism the film has had, because it's not your typical "no brain shoot em up" hollywood action thriller, & actually gives the audience something to think about the critics have run scared from it!! Sad Sad

I'm not for one minute saying that the film is anything other than fiction, but it is a very clever fiction, that explores alternative versions of history that have been around for years. "The Holy Blood & The Holy Grail", which has been heavily referenced in the book & the film was written in the early 1980's, & numerous other books have been written about the origins of christianity that touch on elements mentioned. There is an old saying that "history is written by the victors" & that is certainly true of the Catholic Church! That's not to say, that anything "sugested" in the book or film is a truer version of events than those suggested in the bible, we will never know now!! But from the point of view that after 2000 years of fear of persecution as a heretic, people can finally debate freely & openly about Jesus & where Christianity came from, I think it has been a great thing! Very Happy

But I'm babbling off topic here!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

Go & see the film - it's a fun 2 hours, that'll give you something to think about on the way home from the cinema - if nothing else!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: The Da Vinci Code Reply with quote

Old Faithful wrote:
Went to see this much talked about film over the weekend, & I was pleasantly surprised. Having read & enjoyed the book I was a bit worried about seeing the film after it got such a panning by the critics. I need not have worried, for not the first time the"intelectual elite" who call themselves film critics got it totally wrong! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

The film sticks very closely to the book, so if you like the book, you'll like the film. It was critised for being too long, but at times I thought it was not long enough, as various parts seemed rushed - my only critisism.
Tom Hanks has been panned for a "lackluster" performance, but he played the part of Robert Langdon as it was written!! The character is not an action hero - not your typical hollywood steroetype, but a Harvard professor, bookish, intellegent, but not someone who gets into a fight everyday. When Hanks acts "lackluster" he is acting how the character portrayed would act.

This is typical of a lot of the critisism the film has had, because it's not your typical "no brain shoot em up" hollywood action thriller, & actually gives the audience something to think about the critics have run scared from it!! Sad Sad

I'm not for one minute saying that the film is anything other than fiction, but it is a very clever fiction, that explores alternative versions of history that have been around for years. "The Holy Blood & The Holy Grail", which has been heavily referenced in the book & the film was written in the early 1980's, & numerous other books have been written about the origins of christianity that touch on elements mentioned. There is an old saying that "history is written by the victors" & that is certainly true of the Catholic Church! That's not to say, that anything "sugested" in the book or film is a truer version of events than those suggested in the bible, we will never know now!! But from the point of view that after 2000 years of fear of persecution as a heretic, people can finally debate freely & openly about Jesus & where Christianity came from, I think it has been a great thing! Very Happy

But I'm babbling off topic here!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

Go & see the film - it's a fun 2 hours, that'll give you something to think about on the way home from the cinema - if nothing else!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


read the book which is outstanding as are all Dan Brown books and am looking forward to the film which i am going to see next week Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw a program on one of the Sky documentary channels last night about the real Opus Dei.

They even have a website: http://www.opusdei.org/

They seem a pretty rich lot that give there money to Opus Dei which then goes to I suppose the church but however they rationalised there way of life it came across as very strict and mind controlling. This isn't too say that this isn't what they believe in as the founder said to follow what they say blindly but it kind of went against everything i as a very flimsy christian would consider Christian teachings. There were those that loved being a part of it and those that had left and were now actively campaigning against it see: http://www.odan.org/ , so very hard to know what to make of them.

The film The Davinci Codes portrayal of the Opus Dei is just fiction but it has caused the group to come out of the shadows and start talking about what they believe.

This is the Opus Dei's response to the film:

http://www.opusdei.us/art.php?p=7017

Great websites oput there ton the subject from the sane to the insane:

http://www.mond.at/opus.dei/

http://www.odan.org/ there view of The Davinci Code see: http://www.odan.org/davinci.htm

http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=433

http://www.rickross.com/groups/opus.html

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/cgi-bin/register.cgi/tablet-00580

http://www.americamagazine.org/articles/martin-opusdei.cfm
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fortean Times even have a page about the Opus Dei group:

http://www.forteantimes.com/review/opusdei.shtml

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny wrote:
Saw a program on one of the Sky documentary channels last night about the real Opus Dei.

They even have a website: http://www.opusdei.org/

They seem a pretty rich lot that give there money to Opus Dei which then goes to I suppose the church but however they rationalised there way of life it came across as very strict and mind controlling. This isn't too say that this isn't what they believe in as the founder said to follow what they say blindly but it kind of went against everything i as a very flimsy christian would consider Christian teachings. There were those that loved being a part of it and those that had left and were now actively campaigning against it see: http://www.odan.org/ , so very hard to know what to make of them.

The film The Davinci Codes portrayal of the Opus Dei is just fiction but it has caused the group to come out of the shadows and start talking about what they believe.

This is the Opus Dei's response to the film:

http://www.opusdei.us/art.php?p=7017

Great websites oput there ton the subject from the sane to the insane:

http://www.mond.at/opus.dei/

http://www.odan.org/ there view of The Davinci Code see: http://www.odan.org/davinci.htm

http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=433

http://www.rickross.com/groups/opus.html

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/cgi-bin/register.cgi/tablet-00580

http://www.americamagazine.org/articles/martin-opusdei.cfm


I saw that documentary too!! They certainly look very "cultish" to me!! & how so called "Christians" can condone physical abuse of themselves or anyone else is, well, unbelievable! It's .................just not christian!! Didn't Jesus say "love thy neighbour as thyself"? Does Opus Dei then say "flagelate thy brother as thyself"!!!!????!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/dei.html

Great site with links and information
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the women members of the Blair cabinet is a member of Opus Dei but not sure which one
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talisker25 wrote:
One of the women members of the Blair cabinet is a member of Opus Dei but not sure which one


As if by magic:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1411905,00.html
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny wrote:
talisker25 wrote:
One of the women members of the Blair cabinet is a member of Opus Dei but not sure which one


As if by magic:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1411905,00.html


I'd love to know how they work out which ads to put on these forums, when replying to Taliksers post bcause Davinci was used this link appeared:

http://www.davinciandjesus.com/ which is a link from this organisation: http://www.ccci.org/

How do the forum makers make money from that??
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny wrote:
Johnny wrote:
talisker25 wrote:
One of the women members of the Blair cabinet is a member of Opus Dei but not sure which one


As if by magic:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1411905,00.html


I'd love to know how they work out which ads to put on these forums, when replying to Taliksers post bcause Davinci was used this link appeared:

http://www.davinciandjesus.com/ which is a link from this organisation: http://www.ccci.org/

How do the forum makers make money from that??


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